Now that I've finished my latest exam, I've had some free time to work on the Hobgoblin book, and lo and behold, it's even finished!
Warhammer Armies: Hobgoblins is my shortest book to date, only clocking in at 55 pages, but it does contain a complete Bestiary, background, army list, magic items and so on. Everything you could expect, in short.
With that done (apart from the usual well-needed patches), I will now start working on the Chaos Dwarf book, which might just see a release in April, depending on how much I need to paint to an upcoming tournament. Until then, enjoy!
Download:
http://issuu.com/m4cr1ii3n/docs/warhammer_armies_-_hobgoblins
http://www.scribd.com/doc/86299822/Warhammer-Armies-Hobgoblins
dude i just love it.and what about the chaos dwarfs?
ReplyDeleteWorking on it right now, currently at 151 pages(!), sorting through all the material. Seeing as there is barely anything I need to write in it myself, that one should be pretty quick.
DeleteHey nice army book.I just checked titan war games and I thing you should add a pyromancer to the chaos dwarfs army.
ReplyDeleteThe Chaos Dwarfs will have the Lore of Fire usable to their wizards already, so I don't think that is really necessary. Not to mention that they already have 4 Hero choices as is.
DeleteI'm curious: my name is mentioned in the credits of this book, but I don't recall ever being contacted about you using my work. I'm slightly concerned, because you're talking about a Chaos Dwarf book and alluding to "sorting through the material" and not needing to write anything yourself. As one of the authors of a relatively well known Chaos Dwarf fanlist, and as someone who is clearly on your radar already, I'd like to know whether you've appropriated any of my work for your project.
ReplyDelete- Thomas Heasman-Hunt (ne Hunt)
Yes, a lot of that work was written by you, which is why I was planning on putting your name on the second page along with Kevin Coleman, Rick Priestley and Alan Bligh. I did intend to ask you after sorting through everything though, but I suppose I might as well do that now. Would you be all right with me using some of your material in the book? I don't intend to take any credit for that myself.
DeleteI didn't even get a mention in the book, but a bunch of my items have been copied word-for-word. It doesn't take that much effort to ask permission.
ReplyDelete-Nicodemus (chaosdwarfs.com admin)
My apologies, I went through all source material and could not find your name anywhere in it, otherwise it would ofc be there. What name would you like to be credited by? On the subject of asking for permission, I'd gladly do so, but in many cases there are so many different authors that keeping track on who wrote what is very difficult. Not to mention that a lot of material is several years old, meaning getting into contact with the original writer is often impossible. Believe me, I've tried.
DeleteThat said, anyone who has written anything that is in any of the books should definitely feel free to speak up about it, and I'll have the name included in the credits in the upcoming update.
No, I'm sorry. Had you come to me when you began the project we could have possibly come to an agreement about collaboration, but my book is intended as a complete piece of work - I'm not interested in seeing it chopped up and re-purposed for someone else's project. I worked too long and too hard for that. If you're serious about using my work and crediting me, it would have to be painstakingly detailed to satisfy me - I'd want every single thing you lifted from my book credited to me on the same page on which it appears, and I'd want the URL to the original work in the credits, and the same link posted everywhere you post it so people could see my writing it in its original context.
ReplyDeleteI'm a professional writer. I wrote this book for fun, but I'm very uncomfortable with the idea of people reading something I've written and assuming it came from you. Firstly, it's plagiarism, and secondly you're taking editorial control away from me - I don't have time to scour your book and check you did a good job of reinterpreting my ideas. What if you take the name of one of my special characters and write them doing or saying something that's potentially offensive? I don't know what your cultural or political views are: you could make some reference that to you seems harmless, but which I could find totally horrifying. Are you going to make it explicitly clear what's my work and what's yours? Is it even possible to do that, or have you rephrased everything? This seems to be the case with the ideas of mine that you took for the Hobgoblin book.
Again, I'm sorry to have to be a hardass about this. I don't want to stifle your creativity, but I think you're being a bit dishonest about what you're doing, because this is the first time I've realised your books are actually compilations of rules you've found elsewhere - at least in part. I'm sure a huge amount of work goes into them from you (not least on the formatting, which I know for a fact is a real pain!) but if some or all of the content is coming from elsewhere, you probably need to be more up front about that, and take credit as an editor rather than the author. I've seen your work posted around the internet, and been impressed, but I assumed you wrote everything yourself.
- Thomas Heasman-Hunt
It's okay, I understand. There's enough material to go around anyway, so I'll just skip your parts, no problem.
DeleteI never did intend to chop up your work though, I like pretty much all of it as is. No one likes to see their work chopped up into tiny pieces and put into an inferior product, which has been the case of several of my books. So I would be very careful and selective about which parts I would use. But I respect your wishes, shouldn't take long to sort out.
The reason why I haven't decided to do a Chaos Dwarf book until now is simply because both you and Kevin Coleman had done such fantastic jobs, it seemed hard to "compete" with that. The only reason I am doing it now is to give the players some more options based on the Tamurkhan list, which is a bit thin on both units and fluff. So the Chaos Dwarf would definitely be more of a compilation than anything written by myself (which is why I haven't used the term "written by" in this case).
As for writing everything myself, ofc I couldn't have done that. With 15 army books in less than two years I would have had to have been writing 24/7, and in the cases where I have borrowed a lot of material from other sources, I usually state that in my blog entry (see Fimir). I've simply been using the same layout since Araby (which took 6 months to write, since I had to do so much myself). So where then to draw the line between editor and author? I've certainly written my fair share of it myself, but that varies from book to book. I suppose I could reword it to "Written/edited by" in future updates?
Understand that I'm not trying to take credit for someone else's' work, I simply gather all the lost pieces of lore from all sources I can find, and then glue them together into something cohesive for fans to enjoy.
Okay. Thanks for understanding where I'm coming from and respecting my wishes. I have a bit of a hair trigger sometimes when it comes to this kind of thing - I didn't intend to cast aspersions on your motivation or your work. I'd just rather not see something I've worked hard on be presented in a form I can't control, potentially being attributed incorrectly.
ReplyDeleteIf your Chaos Dwarf book doesn't contain anything of mine, there is no issue, and I wish you luck in your projects. If you are interested in using some of my ideas in future, I'm easily found on Chaos Dwarfs Online and I'm amenable to collaboration, as long as I can be involved from the beginning.
- Thomas Heasman-Hunt
No worries, I've removed all the material from your book now, will still have more than enough to go around. Currently Chaos Dwarfs is the last army on the table for my part, after that I will most likely just keep updating my old books.
DeleteI'll let you know if I intend to start something new and could use some ideas in the future though :)
Excellent work, very similar to what were the Mongols, but I think you could also make the Zoat army, that I miss
ReplyDeleteI was thinking briefly about the Zoats, but there is just so little material out there for them that I do not think I could do them proper justice. Most of the stuff for them was made for 40k, after all.
Deletewhere did you get the cover and page template
ReplyDeleteI think I just googled for "Warhammer Hobgoblins" when I found the cover, can't remember for sure. What part of the page template are you referring to? I did the layout myself in a simply Word doc, been doing it for years.
Deleteit’s just that it looked like it was from a template because they look very professional
DeleteI am speechless, putting stuff other ppl wrote into a meat-grinder and pouring whats comes out into a .pdf is NOT writinga book. And whats realy horryfying is that you seem not to get that. I personally dislike one of the authors you planned on ripping of from (ThommyH) but i do belive he spend time creating his fluff, out of nothing, and you treated him like bread seller, ( yeah yeah i am gonna mention you somewhere). That is called creatinga book. If you want to make something, start from 0, maby from total scraps.
ReplyDeleteAnd please, please do not ever try to be proud of any of your "armybooks" as levels of hypocrysy it would cause could break the universe.
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Well, first time I saw this comment... probably a bit late commenting on it, but what the heck: I DO write parts of the books, but not everything in them. I usually use a basis from other old lists, compile the material, and then add my own writings to that. I have never pretended to write everything in them - if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't bother putting in an extensive credits section, giving credit to the original authors now would I?
DeleteI'm not writing whole novels, I'm making army books with new rules with background based on old background that no one is using for anything any more.
According to you, I should take 1-2 years for each book, write every single word myself (which will be tricky since GW has already written smaller parts for most of these factions that cannot be ignored), bang my head against a desk to make sure I forget any other ideas any else might have ever had, and preferably draw all the artwork myself as well, right? The fact that I have even gotten permission from a hell of a lot of people to use their material in these books doesn't matter either I suppose, because according to you, I HAVE to write everything myself? This is Warhammer, nothing in it is original, not even the stuff written by GW, so starting from absolute scratch is frankly impossible if one intends to stay true to the Warhammer World.
And no, I don't feel proud over using any material written by anyone else, that I only feel appreciation over due to what the original authors have done. I do however feel rather proud over the amount of work I have done with compiling, editing, layout, graphics, rules, research and overall time spent working on them, because that is actually work I did myself.